Sufi orders/Silsila/Tariqa/Path
Sufi Orders and Their Shaykhs
some of the most known sufi orders
Malamatiya The Malamatiya (the blameworthy) can be considered a proto-Sufi order that arose in the 3rd century AH / 9th century CE before the crystallization of the Sufi orders. Malamati principles became integrated into later Sufism. The scholarly article Hakim Tirmidhi and the Malamati Movement of Early Sufism by Prof. Sara Sviri provides a number of foundational ideas as well as important historical data for understanding the Malamatiya.
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Yasawiya – Sufi orders (turuq) crystallized as institutions beginning around the 6th century AH/ 12th century CE. One of the first orders was the Yasawi order, named after Khwajah Ahmad Yasavi (d. 562 AH/ 1166 AD), from the city of Yasi, where his tomb is located. Today it is called Turkestan and is situated in Kazakhstan, about a six hour drive northwest from Tashkent, the capital of Uzbekistan. His shrine is undergoing multi-million dollar renovations, which should be finished by the Fall of 1998, when a commemorative festival and international conference in Turkestan on Khwajah Ahmad is planned. A few generations after Khwajah Ahmad, an important Yasavi shaykh was Isma’il Ata. He was from a village in the vicinity of Tashkent. One of his sayings to his disciples was as follows: “Accept this advice from me: Imagine that the world is a green dome in which there is nothing but God and you, and remember God until the overwhelming theophany (al-tajalli al-qahri) overcomes you and frees you from yourself, and nothing remains but God” (Al-Khani,Hada’iq al-wardiya, p. 109).
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Kubrawiya and Oveyssi - The Kubrawiya Sufi Order–originating, like the Yasawiya, in Central Asia– was named after Najm al-Din Kubra (d. 618/1221) (Abu al-Jannab Ahmad ibn ‘Umar ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah al-Khiwaqi al-Khwarazmi), known as the “saint-producing (lit. “sculpting or chiseling”) shaykh” (shaykh-e vali tarash), since a number of his disciples became great shaykhs themselves. Although originally from Khiva, located today in western Uzbekistan, he moved nearby to the capital city, Khwarazm. Shaykh Najm al-Din was killed defending Khwarazm, which was completely destroyed during the Mongol holocaust. Today, his tomb (and here as well is another image of Shaykh Najm al-Din Kubra’s tomb)is in the town of Konya Urgench, which was built in the area of the ruins of Khwarazm. Apparently, he is known there as Kebir Ata. Konya Urgench is located in Turkmenistan and is about an hour’s drive over the border from the city of Nukus in the Karakalpak region of Uzbekistan. (If you intend to visit Shaykh Najm al-Din’s shrine from Uzbekistan, you must have a Turkmen visa–if you are not Uzbek.)
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Qadiriya – The Qadiriya Sufi Order–branches of which are found throughout the Muslim world– was named after’Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani (d. 1166 CE). Here you can read Qala’id al-jawahir (Necklaces of Gems)a book length hagiography of ‘Abd al-Qadir written by Muhammad ibn Yahya al-Tadifi al-Hanbali. You can also virtually visit the tomb of Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir in Baghdad. The website devoted to Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir Jilani (Link fixed, Dec. 4, 2004) is the most comprehensive site on the web concerning a particular shaykh and his writings. A representative example of the works attributed to Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir is On Removing the Cares of the Heart, which is the seventh discourse in his Futuh al-ghayb (Revelations of the Unseen). Another source for works attributed to him is the website devoted to his discourses. A later Punjabi (Pakistani) Qadiri Sufi Poet was Bulleh Shah (The previous link contains a substantial article on his life and poetry as well as links to a number of his poems in both English and the original Punjabi.) A short paragraphy about him as well as two translated poems can be find at Bulleh Shah. (Link fixed, 22 September 2005.) One of the most significant Qadiri shaykhs in West African was Osman Dan Fodio (from Wikipedia). See Usman dan Fodio and the Sokoto Caliphate (Link fixed 22 September 2005) (a short but useful article from the Library of Congress Country Study of Nigeria). In Northern Nigeria in recent years the Qadiriyya tariqah was continued by Maulana Dr. Sheikh Muhammad al-Nasir Kabara and his successor, Sheikh Qaribullah al-Nasir Kabara. One branch of the Qadiriya in Senegal utilizes drums in their gatherings. Released fully in CD format as Tabala Wolof: Sufi Drumming of Senegal, (Link fixed, Dec. 4, 2004) you can listen here to a brief cut of this Senegalese Qadiriya drumming. (Link fixed, Dec. 4, 2004.)
The Moroccan-based Qadiriya-Butshishiyya, has links to the Shadhiliyah. It is headed by Shaykh Sidi Hamza el Qadiri el Boutchichi and centered in Oujda (Madagh) in the Northeast of Morocco, although numerous zawiyahs exist throughout Morocco. The order is certainly the most significant tariqah in Morocco today and is rapidly expanding. It also has zawiyas and representatives in France, England, Italy, Spain, Canada, Finland, and the United States. Another rich web site on the Qadiriya Boutchichiyya is called The Sufi Way.
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Rifa’iya -Shaykh Ahmad al-Rifa’i (d. 1182 CE) is the shaykh from whom the Rifa’i order is derived. In some cases, such as that of Shaykh Taner (noted above), the Rifa’i and Qadiri orders have united.
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Mevleviye -Rumi and the Mevleviye This comprises links to Rumi’s poetry, discourses, biographical essays, the history of his tarikat (Sufi order), and the Sama. Although many American readers are surprised to hear that Rumi was a devout and committed Muslim, nevertheless his writing is so “Islamic” that his mathnawi was refered to by the great Naqshbandi poet Jami as “the Qur’an in Persian.” (Additions as of 2/28/98)
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Naqshbandiya – The Naqshbandiya, named after Baha al-Din Naqshband (d. 791/1389) (Link fixed 22 September 2005) is a tariqah that is widely active throughout the world today and that even has a strong presence on the Web. You can read about all of the shaykhs of one of its main lineages at this link The Golden Chain (Link fixed 22 September 2005). The Naqshbandiya further developed basic Islamic practices and principles into the eleven principles of the Naqshbandi Order. One of Khwajah Baha al-Din’s successors was Khwajah Muhammad-e Parsa. The tomb and mosque of his son, Khwajah Abu Nasr-e Parsa (fixed 22 Sept. 2005) is in Balkh, in Afghanistan. Another of Khwajah Baha al-Din’s successors was Ya’qub-e Charkhi (d. 1447), whose most significant disciple and successor was Khwajah ‘Ubayd Allah Ahrar (d. 895/1490) (fixed 22 Sept. 2005). Read here a Qur’anic commentary of Khwajah Ahrar’s on Guide us on the straight path (Qur’an 1:5). One of the most highly regarded Naqshbandi Shaykhs is Ahmad Sirhindi. See a Biography of Shaykh Ahmad al-Faruqi al-Sirhindi (link fixed 22 Sept. 2005) and another Biography of Imam-i Rabbani, Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi, (a PDF document; link fixed 22 Sept. 2005) known as the Mujaddid-i Alf-i Thani (Renewer of the Second Millenium)(d. 1034/1624). This is an on-line translation of the Manaqib ve Maqamat-i Ahmadiya-yi Saidiya written by Muhammad Mazhar, a son of Ahmad Said Faruqi.
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Chishtiya - Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti (from Chisht or Chesht-e sharif, due East of Herat on the Hari Rud in Afghanistan, although his tomb is in Ajmer, India) is the most well-known of the early saints of the Chistiya order, which is prominent in India and Pakistan and has spread (in various forms) to the West. The first of the Chishti saints was Abu Ishaq Shami Chishti (d. 329/940-41), whose shaykh was a well-known Sufi shaykh, Mimshad (or Mumshadh, after al-Dhahabi in Tarikh al-islam) al-Dinawari (d. 299/911-12) (from Dinawar, which was a city in Iranian Kurdistan northeast of Kermanshah, that was later completely destroyed by Timur). See An Introduction to Sufism, is an article written by a recently deceased shaykh of the Chistiya who had resided for many years in Toronto. Read about Khwaja Moinuddin’s shrine (dargah) at two sites:The Dargah (link fixed 22 Sept. 2005) and Ajmer Sharif; and virtually visit the Dargah of Khwaja Mu’in al-Din in Ajmer, India. Visit also the Shrine of Nizam al-Din Awliya (d. 725/3125), (fixed Sept. 22, 2005) a Sufi shaykh of the Chisti order who is buried in New Delhi, India. One of disciples of Nizam al-Din Awliya was the great Sufi poet Amir Khusraw Dihlawi (d. 725/1325), who was buried at the feet of his master.
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Shadhiliya -The Shadhiliya Order, named after Abu al-Hasan al-Shadhili (d. 656 AH/1258 CE), whose tomb is at Humaythra on Egypt’s Red Sea coast, has branches throughout North Africa and the Arab world. It has also become established in Europe and the United States. One shaykh who has brought the Shadhiliya to the U.S. is Sidi Shaykh Muhammad al-Jamal ar-Rifa’i as-Shadhili, (links fixed 21 December 2005) whose organization has established the Sidi Muhammad Press website, which contains information about the principles of Sidi Shaykh al-Jamal’s teachings concerning the Shadhili order (link fixed 13 June 2002). The Shadhiliya derives from the tariqat of Abu Madyan Shu’ayb (d. 594 AH/1198 CE), whose tomb is in Tlemcen, Algeria. A recent book, The Way of Abu Madyan, by the scholar Vincent Cornell, provides his biography, a discussion of his teachings, and a number of texts written by Abu Madyan and translated into English along with the original Arabic. One of Abu Madyan’s disciples was Muhammad ‘Ali Ba-’Alawi, from whom the ‘Alawiya Order, also known as the Ba’Alawiya Order, derives. See a brief summary of The Way of the Bani Alawiyah – At-Tariqah al-’Alawiyah. A branch of the ‘Alawi Order is the ‘Attasiyah Order. Their new official website is Attasia Tarikah but only the Arabic is currently functional, the English being under construction. The order is centered in Yemen but also has zawiyas (hospices) in Pakistan, India, and Myanmar. The ‘Alawiya order in the Yemen has recently been studied by the anthropologist, David Buchman. In his article titled The Underground Friends of God and Their Adversaries: A Case Study and Survey of Sufism in Contemporary Yemen, Professor Buchman summarizes the results of his six month period of fieldwork in Yemen. The article was originally published in the journal Yemen Update, vol. 39 (1997), pp. 21-24.
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May 21, 2009 at 8:16 AM
Sheikh Muhammad Amin Madni (whose full name is SHEIKH HAFIZ AMIN BIN ABDUL REHMAN and whose parents and grand parents hailed from Pakistan) lived at Madina in Saudi Arabia for sixty years. He was Imam at Masjid An-Noor for thirty years. He came to Pakistan in the late ’80s and lived in Karachi for 12 (twelve) years. Then he migrated to Multan (Madinat-ul-Aulia) around 1995. He resides in the Hujra-381, New Shah Rukn-e-Alam Colony. He is a saint of Idrisi Silsila. This saint has introduced the Idrisi Tareeqah in Pakistan. He has established meeting centres for silent zikr in all cities of Pakistan. He somehow induces the most intense love for the Last Messenger of Allah in his followers. He asks his followers to always remain busy in sending blessings to the Messenger (silent recitation of Darood). The love of the Prophet of Islam is the basis of this silsila.Sheikh Amin is the Great,True & Biggest sufi Saint (Aulia Allah) in this time.
He Teaches how to contact with ALLAH And HAZRAT MUHAMMAD.
Sufism is mostly about subjective realities, an understanding of which requires a change of perception — a softening of heart. It is all about heart-to-heart matters and that is why it demands silence. Shaikh Amin provides a link to the sea of God’s Anwaar and Tajalliyaat (special blessings) in the spirit of the Prophet of Islam that can only be experienced first-hand by creating a spiritual affinity with him.
Idrisia Tareeqa is a spiritual lineage linked to the Prophet Hadhrat Muhammad. This spiritual lineage is famous in Egypt, Sudan and Arabia.
THE PEDIGREE OF AHMAD BIN IDRIS
THE PROPHET
FATIMAH = ALI IBN ABI TALIB –> al-Hasan (d. 49/699-70)–> al-Hasan –>Abd Allah, al-kaamil, al-mahd –> Idris, the founder of Idrisi dynasty in Fez (d 175/ 791) –> Idris (d. 213/828) –>
Muhammad (d. 221/836) –> Ali Haydara –> Ahmed Mizwar –> Isa –> Hurma –> Ali –> Abu Bakr
-> Mashish -> Yamlah -> Muhammad -> Abd al-Jabbar -> Ahmad -> Umar -> Ibrahim -> Abd Allah -> Muhammad -> Ahmad -> Ali -> Muhammad -> Idris -> Ahmad al-Mashishi al-Yamlahi al-Hasani.
Despite his importance, no substantial study has been devoted to the
career of Abul Abbas Sidi Ahmed ibn Idriss al-Hassani al-Araichi al-
Fasi (d. 1252/1837); Ibn Idriss was born into a holy family at Maysur in the district of
al-`Araich (Larache) on Morocco’s Atlantic coast; the date of his
birth is given as either Rajah 1173/February-March 1760 or
1163/1749-50, the latter date supported by Idrissi family tradition.
He was a descendant through the Imam Idriss b. ‘Abdellah al-Mahd of
the Sharifian Idrissi dynasty, sometime rulers of Fez (788-974).
After the usual Quranic studies, Sidi Ahmed went at the age of about
20 to study at the Qarawiyyin mosque school in Fez. There he studied
a wide range of subjects under a number of teachers, who included
Sidi Mohammed at-Tawdi ibn Souda (d. 1209/1794), al-Majidri (or al-
Mijaydri) al-Shinqiti, Sidi Abul Mahawib Abdelwahhab Tazi (d.
1198/1783), and Abul Qacem al-Wazir. Other teachers referred to in
the sources include Abdelkarim Yazghi (d. 1784) and Mohammed Tayyeb
ibn Kiran (d. 1812). Ibn Kiran was later to teach al-Sanusi. Among
the texts Ibn Idriss studied were the works of Ibn Hajar al-
`Asqalani (d. 1499) and the Asanid of Ibn Suda from the latter’s
period of study in Egypt.
Ahmad B. Idris, the Moroccan mystic and teacher, is one of the seminal figures of Islam in the nineteenth century. Through his preachings, prayers and litanies, his students and their students, he has exercised an enduring influence that stretches from North Africa east to Malaysia and Indonesia, north to Southern Yugoslavia and Istanbl and south along the East African coast. In North East Africa, his influence was specially profound through such students as Muhammad b. Ali al Sanusi, Muhammad Uthman Al-Mirghani and Ibrahim al-Rashid. Two states of the region, Libya and Somalia, are at least in part of creations of the traditions associated with him. In the Sudan, the brotherhood, the Khatmiyya, established by al-Mirghani continues to play a major role in the politics of divided country.
(La i laha il lal laho mohammad dur rasool allah fee qulli lamhatin wa nafasin adada ma wasi a il mullah) this is a basic wazif is (Silsila Mohammadia idrisia)
May 21, 2009 at 8:29 AM
Silsila Idrisia
”Muhammad Ameen bin Abd-ur-Rahman” “”Qutab-ul-Aqtaab”” is a Sufi Shaikh. In the past, he spent most of his time in Madina Saudi Arabia, and he is now based in Multan, a city in southern Punjab Pakistan. The number of his followers is in millions. He Resides at Shah Rukn-e-Alam Colony in New Multan(Multan). He belongs to the Idreesia (also spelt Idrissia) order of Sufism which originated in North Africa and the Maghreb (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt) as compared with the Iranian-Indian orders and stems of Sufism which have been traditionally popular in Pakistan. He is The Sheikh of the Time Now for Muslims. Shaikh Ameen’s methods of initiating followers into his Sufi discipline include the Love for God & Love for his Prophet Muhammad through Zikr / Darood Khafi or silent recital. Idrissia is mostly spelled as Idrisia in Modren Western Literature. Imam Ahmad Idrisi [real name Ahmad Ibn Idris Al-Fasi] was the founder of this sufi order. The spiritual authority of Idrisia is mainly deriven through well recorded narration from Imam Idris where he was given Awrad (sufi chantings) by Khidhar (a legenadry personality in Abrahamic Religions) in the presence of Muhammad {SalAllaho Alaihi waSallam}. It is also narrated, in the same spiritual encounter, that Muhammad {SalAllaho Alaihi waSallam} became the Direct Guardian of Idrisi Sufi Tradition. Sheikh Amin Bin Abdurr Rehman attained his spiritual training various Mashiakh (Sufi Masters) including Qadriyya and Naqsh Bandia but settled for an Idrisi Shiekh in Yemen. He spent later part of his youth in Modern Saudia, specifically Hijaz. He migrated to Pakistan after political instability in Saudia in late 1970s. He has a sizeable number of followers.
Ahmad Bin Idris (Founder of Idrisia)
Silsila Idrisia derives its name from Hazrat Ahmad bin Idris of Morocco and is widespread in the countries of North Africa. I found it categorised as a branch of Silsila Shaazlia in a book.
Here are parts of a biography of Hazrat Ahmad bin Idris that I picked from the net:
Ahmed ibn Idriss al-Hassani al-Araichi al-Fasi; most accounts of him appear by way of a preface lo studies or his pupils. And yet through his teachings, pupils, and family, he was undoubtedly one of the key religious figures of the 19th century Arab Muslim world. Three of his pupils from his immediate circle established major brotherhoods, the Sanussiya, Khatmiya, and Rashidiya, from which stemmed several other orders. Of his descendants one branch established a local dynasty in southern Arabia that survived until 1933 when it was incorporated into the Saudi state.
Yet Ibn Idriss remains an enigma. That he was very influential is
beyond doubt; why, is less easy to explain. The explanation must
lie in his personality; not so much what he taught, but how he
taught it. That, rather than doctrinal originality, best explains
the enormous authority he exercised over his students and
contemporaries and why established scholars so eagerly sought ijazas from him.
After the usual Quranic studies, Sidi Ahmed went at the age of about 20 to study at the Qarawiyyin mosque school in Fez. There he studied a wide range of subjects under a number of teachers, who included Sidi Mohammed at-Tawdi ibn Souda al-Majidri (or al-Mijaydri) al-Shinqiti, Sidi Abul Mahawib Abdelwahhab Tazi and Abul Qacem al-Wazir. Other teachers referred to in the sources include Abdelkarim Yazghi and Mohammed Tayyeb ibn
Kiran (d. 1812).
It was from among the same teachers that Ibn Idriss took his Sufi affiliations; he was initiated into the Khadiriya by al-Tazi and
into the Nasiriya Shadhiliya by al-Wazir, while al-Shinqiti taught
him the famous prayer attributed to Sidna Ali ibn Abi Talib, al-Hizb
al-Sayfi.
Ibn ldriss’ teachings; as regards Sufism, (had) an emphasis on the Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) as the way to God. He expounded his own distinctively mystical interpretation of the Quran and hadith. Central to his mysticism was the concept of Tariqa Mohammediya, namely that there was only one “way,” that of the Prophet, who alone could act as intermediary between the seeker and God. Sidi Ahmed
Akish Damidi reports, He, the teacher (at-ustadh) said, “The leaders of this tariqa took their way through intermediaries (bi-wasita), but I took my tariqa from the Messenger (peace and blessing be upon him), without any intermediary; thus my way is the Mohammediya Ahmediya; its beginning and its end is the Mohammedian light.”
August 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM
can you please send me the whole introduction to silsila idrisia and shaikh amin sahib to be published at http://www.ghouth-e-azam.com
may Allah Taala give you the reward in this world and the world hereafter.
aala shah
i wan to put the same request to all the contributors of comments here. they may however send me content according to their choice.
it is a great dilemma that i dont find proper people to send me the original content.
may Allah Taala give us taufeeq to do some thing good for other s and our safe hereafter.
June 18, 2009 at 11:27 PM
I am not clear what u mean by “crystallization” of Sufi Orders in the third century A.H.
This blog appears to be written by historians. Maybe we need comments from an insider – someone who has actually walked the path.
A “Sufi Order” or “Silsila” means a golden chain of sufi saints spanning the entire period from the time of the Prophet (Peace be upon him), till today.
Furthermore a Silsila has to have been initiated through the blessing and guidance of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) during his lifetime.
Of these there are four: Naqshbandia, Qadria, Chistia, and Suharwardia. Sufis of these chains routinely get there “noor” or “faiz” from their Shaykhs, as well as directly from Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him). The tariqat of these Orders is unambiguous and clear. It has evolved through the centuries and is well established and well documented.
The other so called chains were not initiated by Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) during his life time. And I have no knowledge of documentation of their curriculum.
June 18, 2009 at 11:44 PM
If you are interested in the reality of Sufism, may I suggest that u go to YouTube and search for “Naqshbandia Saifi”. This will give you some idea about the sufis of the “Naqshbandia Saifi” Sub-Order in Pakistan. May Allah be your guide.
June 19, 2009 at 4:11 AM
There is one more very important issue. You need to know the difference between Zikr and Wazifa.
Whereas Naqshbandia, Qadria, Chistia, and Suharwardia Sufi Orders and all their respective Sub-orders impart Zikr to the Lataif of their murids (disciples).
Other have only wazifas to offer to their murids.
This is an UNBELIEVABLY BIG difference !
A Latifa or (plural Lataif) is a spiritual center of the human soul. The Shaykh tranfers noor directly to these spiritual centers by focussing on them. Thereby transfering the spiritual might of his Lataif onto the murid. Whose Lataif are thereby activated. And then the murid’s soul is awakened to the Zikr of Allah. This is altogether different and superior to the Shakhs who have only Wazifas to offer their Murids.
Ofcourse wazifas are very powerful because they are the word of Allah. And each Wazifa is associated with diverse spiritual powers.
However the wazifa is a conscious pious act.
Whereas Zikr is an act of the soul, which continues even when the disciple sleeps – 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, all their lives.
May Allah guide you the path of Zikr-e-Khafi. This is the most transcended and powerful form of Zikr introduced first by Hazrat Baha-ud-din Muhammad bin Muhammad al Bukhari, Nakshband. Before him all Zikr was verbalized, now it is all “Khafi” for the entire Nakshbandia Sufi Order.
August 19, 2009 at 9:12 AM
can you please send me the whole introduction to silsila idrisia and shaikh amin sahib to be published at http://www.ghouth-e-azam.com
may Allah Taala give you the reward in this world and the world hereafter.
aala shah
ibraiz sahib i ve made this request to fahad sahib also. please pay attention.
i wan to put the same request to all the contributors of comments here. they may however send me content according to their choice.
it is a great dilemma that i dont find proper people to send me the original content.
may Allah Taala give us taufeeq to do some thing good for other s and our safe hereafter.
June 19, 2009 at 4:43 AM
May Allah have mercy on us all, and show us all the straight way.
The Nashbandia Sufi Order has a number of Sub-orders, And their Asbaak (lessons) comprise of focusing noor onto the various Lataif of the human soul.
The most dynamic of these is the Nakshbandi Saifi Sub-order. This Sub-order is in the name of Hazrat Akhundzada Saif-ur-Rahman (Ataal Allah Hayata). His Aastana-e-Aaliya is situated at Faqirabad, near Lahore, Pakistan.
The most remarkable fact about Hazrat Saif-ur-Rahman is that in his life-time he has been able to generate five to seven generations of Kamil Shayakhs.
This means that he trained a disciple till the disciple became a Kamil Wali. Then the disciple trained another to Kamiliat, and so on. So that within this lifetime 7 generations exist. This phenomenon spreading like wild fire in a forest. Except it is not wild fire that he is spreading, it is Noor-e-Muhammadi that is spreading all over Pakistan.
May Allah and my Shaykh forgive me if I have transgressed my humble station in writing about a subject about which I know very little.
July 22, 2009 at 3:10 PM
I have some questions about silsila idrisia and inshAllah you can give me some answers.
Is it so that the Sheikh Amin realy have contact with Allah and do they think that our Prophet PBHU is still alive? Isnt it shirk to follow a sheikh blindly whoever it is and dont the sufi do that? Like putting his sheikh behind or after our Prophet pbhu? I really need some answers and I have personal matters behind my questions. So plz if someone can answer me inshAllah.
Assalamu aleikum
August 19, 2009 at 9:28 AM
your question is very complicated. it is not as easy to answer it.
AND IT IS NOT AS EASY TO UNDERSTAND IT (THE ANSWER).
In fact there are different frames of mind. a frame of mind means a set of feelings, thoughts, sensations, observations, conclusions etc. on a wider scale we can make some one understand something when he/she has the same frame of mind we ourselves have.
when people try to make some one understand some points of religion i feel they are trying in vain. anyway, they do it and sometimes get its fruit. but most of the time the efforts to make someone understand results in greater misunderstandings, oppositions and controversies.
the people who think it all a shirk are also right. i can understand in what perspective they say so. but the people who say it is not a shirk are also right. i can understand their frame of mind as well. there are evidences in quraan and sunnah for both of them.
but 99% people end up with a result that the other is wrong.
if you are confused you may have an ability to understand the truth behind. but you may not have as well.
try your best and if you cannot understand then do what your family has taught you or what you are convinced to do so far, tolerate the others and avoiding denouncing them.
there is a great difference in male and female spiritual process even, i fee. if you are female it shall be more difficult for you to understand.
for example: they talk about lataif……if you dont have them in your body, you cant understand what they talk about. in the same way if you dont have lataif you cant understand what they talk about their purification, zikr and awakening etc.
Allah is same for all muslims. Ask Allah Taala to show you the right path for you and try to be contented.
August 12, 2009 at 6:56 AM
Silsila Idrisia, as conveyed to us by Syedi Al-Shaikh Al-Hafiz Amin bin Abdul Rahman, accords finality in spiritual and theological matters, after the word of God, to the Last of the Prophets (Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam), whose place nobody else can ever take.
Things of tariqat can never be adequately described in words, but to convey some idea of the consonance of Syedi Amin’s spirituality with Sharia, let me give an example: Those followers of Syedi whose spiritual connection with him is refreshed by a visit to his Mehfil in Multan or a Mehfil held under his direction in any city of the world, get awakened for Salat-i-Fajar without any external clock alarm, etc.
In fact, at least for a few days after visiting him in Multan, one is transported to a state of profound mental and spiritual peace in which troubles of the world look as petty as they really are, and the only worry is to save oneself from things prohibited in Islam.
Whereas these are only two examples of the countless internal benefits of this Silsila that can only be experienced first-hand, there are also many external indications of this Silsila’s thoroughly and intensely Islamic orientation:
~The Mehfils that I just mentioned are arranged in almost all cities of Pakistan and also in many cities throughout the world, where Darood-i-Ibrahimi’s first part and Surah Ikhlas are daily recited thousands of times on beads.
~The basic daily wazaif, included in Ahad (oath), necessary for initiation into the Silsilah, include Ayatal Kursi (three times), La Ilaha Il-Allah (100 times), Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam (100 times), Allah, Allah (100 times, silently), AstaghfirUllah (100 times) and La Ilaha Il-Allahu Muhammadu Rasul-Allah-e-fi kul-i-lamhatin-wa-nafasin adada ma wasiahu IlmUllah (10 times). The oath, administered either by the Shaikh himself or a person deputed by him, requires of a person not to deliberately stop reciting these wazaif once a day without excuse. In addition, Syedi also emphasizes recitation of Subhan-Allah-i-wa-bi-HamdeHi Subhan-Allah-il-Azeem (100 times each after Fajr and Maghrib prayers or at least 100 times a day).
~ Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam is the most basic wazifa of this Silsila, which the Idrisis are encouraged to recite daily in thousands, hundreds of thousands or if possible (by a special spiritual grace made available to some followers of this Silsila) even in millions or billions; (just imagine how many blessings of God would these people be receiving).
~As many as 500 to 1000 people visit Syedi’s place on weekdays and the number multiplies many times on weekends, but care is taken that no disturbance is caused to the neighbours: an internal sound system is used for the lectures and Naats while the loudspeaker is used only for Azan, and the brothers are prohibited from frequenting the neighbourhood or the market in groups. Only in exceptional cases, the visitors are allowed to stay for more than three days.
~While the Syedi’s residence at 381-A, Shah Rukn-i-Alam Colony, New Multan has undergone only minor changes during his last 14 years in the city, the adjacent mosque devoted to visitors has developed into a massive 80- to 90-foot tall structure with four huge halls one above the other, where langar (free food) is available three times a day. The ground hall is used for prayers and Mehfils only, while the other halls are also used for eating and sleeping by visitors. Contributions are voluntary (although those who have FELT Syedi Amin would feel fortunate to be given the chance of sacrificing everything in their possession for him).
~The guests are advised to stay at the Mosque with the niyat of Aitekaf whenever they visit Syedi.
~Brothers are encouraged to keep meeting each other and take special care of those attached with the Silsila.
~Women can only meet Syedi’s wife in the physical world, and can maintain only spiritual connection with Syedi through their male relatives. His standard of purdah (veil) can be imagined by the statement he once made that he feels ghairat even if a jooti (open sandal or shoe) of his wife is seen lying somewhere by a brother.
~Millions of people are thus benefiting from this Sisila in Pakistan and abroad, despite the fact that Syedi has disallowed advertisements saying that tariqat is not the road to fame. Even this initiative of mine is a personal one out of my love for him, a liberty taken by me at the risk of losing everything worth living for, because he has even disallowed his followers to counter this baseless propaganda against him. But I know that he is so loving he would forgive me. Some senior brothers have requested him for permission to set up an official website of the Silsila at least, which however, has not been granted so far.
Some ‘religious’ organizations, that are based on Silsilas or branches of those Silsilas that are not as effective as Syedi Amin’s Idrisia, do not like the amazing spread of this Silsila in Pakistan and have started a baseless propaganda campaign against it. The propagandists are taking advantage of Syedi’s dislike of advertisement and also of the fact that Silsila Idrisia, which originated in North Africa, was unknown here in Pakistan before the arrival of Syedi Amin.
However, despite all this, Syedi Amin’s Silsila Idrisia continues to thrive in Pakistan because of its incredible positive effects on the lives of those attached. The number of those who have taken Ahad has crossed the 10-million mark while regular visitors to Multan number in hundreds of thousands.
August 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Sheikh amin is not a saint of any sufi stem,he is using the name of Idreesia
The founder of this stem was Imam Ahmed Idrisi about 250 years ago,but sheikh amin stated Idreesia is 700 year old Imam Ahmed Idrisi was the founder of it.It is a clear lie from him when the founder was born 250 years ago how can Idreesia be 700 years old? If sheikh amin was Imam of masque in Saudi Arabia for 30 years? what is the address of that masque what time he was doing Imamat there? Sheikh amin and his followers don’t follow sharia they dance on the streets they hide on donkeys they bark like dogs if you ask them why you doing all that their answer will be
We are doing all that to get blessing of Allah and Prophet.
There are many hidden qadyanis in the ranks of sheikh amin who support
Him financially, sheikh amin had claim of his prophet hood. he has pasted many lies upon Allah and Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) he asks his followers to worship other than Allah. he stated books of hadith are not direct from Prophet but my teaching is direct from Prophet therefore my statements are more dependable then hadith.sheikh amin stated if you look at me you don’t see sheikh amin you see Mohammad,Im Mohammad, Mohammad is sitting in front of you Mohammad is in Multan.
There are many misled claims and this so-called Sufi.to know more about this qadyani freemason made fitnah do visit youtube links.
Unfortunately Islamic scholars in Pakistan are not taking this new fitnah seriously they have not taken any step to expose sheikh amin’s cult on public level and a well known religious group in pakistan is being paid by sheikh amin and he is taking full advantage of the ullamas silent .
In the past some people tried to expose sheikh amin in the media but they were threatened by his followers who mostly are gangsters, drug dealers land mafia
August 12, 2009 at 1:03 PM
In one of sheikh amin’s speech, he said bhangra(dance) is the sunaat of Rasool Allah.maz Allah.
He stated Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) use to get displeased to Allah (maz Allah)
He said all his followers will be forgiven by Allah even they make biggest sins.
He said universe is under my control (maz allah)
He stated, Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) use to do the funeral prayers of non-believers even Allah not allowed him to do it but he kept doing it (maz Allah)
He stated hazrat abu bakar stole his father’s hidden money and the same money was given to Prophet Mohammad (maz allah)
Sheikh amin, the father of prophet Mohammad (pbuh) was womanizer (maz Allah)
He said, Allah shall not punish any one because Allah only make people afraid but he will not punish any one all will be forgiven.
He stated there were 36 messengers came after Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) like mirza qadyani in Pakistan. it is very tricky problem but keep looking for this type person if you find him don’t be hasty to accept him make sure if this person got the qualities of Allah and Prophet then accept him.
There are so many open kufaria statement, lies, and insults of Prophets and Allah by sheikh amin but still he is not by being challenge by the ullamas in Pakistan. Obviously if the ullamas are not
Aware of this fitnah then it is different matter but the bitter realty is all the top ullama do have all the informations about sheikh amin and his kufria statements but why they are hesitant to expose him on media and public level? I don’t find the answer for this.it is just the mater of few hours
If ullama come to the media with his audio speeches as proof and expose him then people will
Have better understanding about the fitna of sheikh amin lets hope in near future ullama will do realise their duties…
Sheikh amin ‘followers are so stubborn and ignorant they have no logical explanations of any of the answer you ask they will keep saying no no no the videos on the youtube are fake tempered
Out of contest and if you ask ok if they can prove your point then they will not give you any proof of it just they will keep saying no no no our sheikh is the best ,you are a propagandist you don’t know any thing about Sufism. a person (sheikh amin) is calling him self a prophet a person who is pasting blunt lies upon Allah and Prophet a person who failed to prove himself follower of sunaat and sharia a person who said it is blessing to bark like dogs a person who ask his followers to eat more sleep long dance on the music a person who said to his followers that if you wives are angry to you make them happy to lick (oral sex) is this you call sufim???
August 13, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Silsila Idrisia
”Muhammad Ameen bin Abd-ur-Rahman” “”Qutab-ul-Aqtaab”” is a Sufi Shaikh. In the past, he spent most of his time in Madina Saudi Arabia, and he is now based in Multan, a city in southern Punjab Pakistan. The number of his followers is in millions. He Resides at Shah Rukn-e-Alam Colony in New Multan(Multan). He belongs to the Idreesia (also spelt Idrissia) order of Sufism which originated in North Africa and the Maghreb (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt) as compared with the Iranian-Indian orders and stems of Sufism which have been traditionally popular in Pakistan. He is The Sheikh of the Time Now for Muslims. Shaikh Ameen’s methods of initiating followers into his Sufi discipline include the Love for God & Love for his Prophet Muhammad through Zikr / Darood Khafi or silent recital. Idrissia is mostly spelled as Idrisia in Modren Western Literature. Imam Ahmad Idrisi [real name Ahmad Ibn Idris Al-Fasi] was the founder of this sufi order. The spiritual authority of Idrisia is mainly deriven through well recorded narration from Imam Idris where he was given Awrad (sufi chantings) by Khidhar (a legenadry personality in Abrahamic Religions) in the presence of Muhammad {SalAllaho Alaihi waSallam}. It is also narrated, in the same spiritual encounter, that Muhammad {SalAllaho Alaihi waSallam} became the Direct Guardian of Idrisi Sufi Tradition. Sheikh Amin Bin Abdurr Rehman attained his spiritual training various Mashiakh (Sufi Masters) including Qadriyya and Naqsh Bandia but settled for an Idrisi Shiekh in Yemen. He spent later part of his youth in Modern Saudia, specifically Hijaz. He migrated to Pakistan after political instability in Saudia in late 1970s. He has a sizeable number of followers.
Ahmad Bin Idris (Founder of Idrisia)
Silsila Idrisia derives its name from Hazrat Ahmad bin Idris of Morocco and is widespread in the countries of North Africa. I found it categorised as a branch of Silsila Shaazlia in a book.
Here are parts of a biography of Hazrat Ahmad bin Idris that I picked from the net:
Ahmed ibn Idriss al-Hassani al-Araichi al-Fasi; most accounts of him appear by way of a preface lo studies or his pupils. And yet through his teachings, pupils, and family, he was undoubtedly one of the key religious figures of the 19th century Arab Muslim world. Three of his pupils from his immediate circle established major brotherhoods, the Sanussiya, Khatmiya, and Rashidiya, from which stemmed several other orders. Of his descendants one branch established a local dynasty in southern Arabia that survived until 1933 when it was incorporated into the Saudi state.
Yet Ibn Idriss remains an enigma. That he was very influential is
beyond doubt; why, is less easy to explain. The explanation must
lie in his personality; not so much what he taught, but how he
taught it. That, rather than doctrinal originality, best explains
the enormous authority he exercised over his students and
contemporaries and why established scholars so eagerly sought ijazas from him.
After the usual Quranic studies, Sidi Ahmed went at the age of about 20 to study at the Qarawiyyin mosque school in Fez. There he studied a wide range of subjects under a number of teachers, who included Sidi Mohammed at-Tawdi ibn Souda al-Majidri (or al-Mijaydri) al-Shinqiti, Sidi Abul Mahawib Abdelwahhab Tazi and Abul Qacem al-Wazir. Other teachers referred to in the sources include Abdelkarim Yazghi and Mohammed Tayyeb ibn
Kiran (d. 1812).
It was from among the same teachers that Ibn Idriss took his Sufi affiliations; he was initiated into the Khadiriya by al-Tazi and
into the Nasiriya Shadhiliya by al-Wazir, while al-Shinqiti taught
him the famous prayer attributed to Sidna Ali ibn Abi Talib, al-Hizb
al-Sayfi.
Ibn ldriss’ teachings; as regards Sufism, (had) an emphasis on the Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) as the way to God. He expounded his own distinctively mystical interpretation of the Quran and hadith. Central to his mysticism was the concept of Tariqa Mohammediya, namely that there was only one “way,” that of the Prophet, who alone could act as intermediary between the seeker and God. Sidi Ahmed
Akish Damidi reports, He, the teacher (at-ustadh) said, “The leaders of this tariqa took their way through intermediaries (bi-wasita), but I took my tariqa from the Messenger (peace and blessing be upon him), without any intermediary; thus my way is the Mohammediya Ahmediya; its beginning and its end is the Mohammedian light.”
August 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM
i like to have answers of my questions from the followers of sheikh amin.i hope they will answer to the point.
1. What is the address of the mosque where sheikh amin was imam for 30 years and the pried of him imamat?
2. Who is the leading figure of silsala idreesia at persent? And where he is from?
3. sheikh amin has so long hairs 50 inch long is it not allowed for male Muslim in sharia it is not even sunaat a man who dose not follow the sunaat can he be a the biggest walli?
4. Can any of you tell me if bhangra (dance) is the sunaat of Rasool Allah? If it is not then why sheikh amin said bhangra is sunaat? Is it not a lie of him?
5. Why dose sheikh amin barks like dogs? Is it the way of Muslims? Is this not the disrespect of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh)
6. I want to know the mean of some naats (ha sahir Mohammad ki zaat alla?
7. sheikh ka roop ka zil khuda wo nabi?
8. sheikh amin said my murids will be forgiven even if they make big sins?
I hope you will be help me to answer my question.
August 13, 2009 at 3:22 PM
what is the address of the mosque where sheikh amin was imam?what is the pried of his imamat in that mosque?
August 15, 2009 at 4:01 PM
sheikh amin is not a muslim he is a qadyani agent.he pasted lies upon Allah and
aqa ji.keep away from him he is a lair he is a sheetan.
August 22, 2009 at 7:37 AM
If Shaikh Amin does not believe in the finality of Rasul-Allah’s prophethood and he is like Qadianis, God’s curse (Laanat-Allah) be on me; if Shaikh Amin believes in the finality of Rasul-Allah’s prophethood and he is not like Qadianis, God’s curse (Laanat-Allah) be on the person writing by the name of “salim khan” here.
Visit this link to see the falsehood of the person called “salim khan” exposed:
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32796
August 22, 2009 at 7:40 AM
Rasul-Allah – Muhammad-u-Rasul-Allah (Sala-Allahu alaihay wasalam)
August 22, 2009 at 12:29 PM
I say Syedi Shaikh Amin Sahib believes in the finality of Syedna Muhammud-u Rasul-Allah’s prophethood and is not like the Qadianis who do do not believe so, and if “salim khan” thinks otherwise (Nauzu-Billah), I say Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen– this is what I am saying. Burhan
August 22, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Itnay baray Wali-Allah Syedi Amin k baray men baat karnay ki tamiz nahi in propaganda chalanay walay shaitanon/shaitan k chelon ko or jawab mangtay hen–bay adab bay nasib– isi liay inhen koi jawab do to inhen samajh nahi ata
August 22, 2009 at 12:55 PM
This is my earnest prayer in this context–Laanat-Allah-i-alal kazibeen–may God’s curse be on the liars/propagandists against Syedi Amin, and may God’s blessings continue to increase on Syedi Amin, his followers and other Muslims in peace with him
September 7, 2009 at 7:48 PM
isnt sheikh amin 65 year old?if he was imam masjid in madina city for 30 years then he must have been only 14 year of age when he was made a imam of masjid?
sheikh amin moved to pakistan in 1988 so he is living in pakistan from last 21 year and before coming to pakistan he was in madina and he was imam in a masjid for 30 years it mean he was made imam masjid in 1958 at the age of 14?amazing?
sheikh amin is a hanafi and a sufi is it possible wahabi goverment would allow a hanafi /sufi sheikh amin imam of masjid?any ways if he was made imam of masid at the age of 14 then plz let me know the addrees details of that masjid?
thank.
September 7, 2009 at 8:08 PM
sheikh amin claimed for his prophet hood and his murids call him Allah and sheikh amin said Aqa ji did not follow Allah’s command (maz Allah) for proof see the links thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bgH5gcrTRU
http://www.youtube.com/user/shardil12345#play/all/uploads-all/0/46LuvWXGKQ4
http://www.youtube.com/user/shardil12345#play/all/favorites-all/0/3uJ7lYnyx-s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS2QnJXV0TE
shame on sheikh amin and his misled cult.
September 9, 2009 at 7:25 PM
sheikh amin called prophet Mohammad (pbuh) magician (maz Allah)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ8Tooz8kw0&feature=related
all the videos are real and it is sheikh amins voice if you say videos are fake then prove it.if not then accept the fact that sheikh amin is not a muslim.
September 9, 2009 at 7:39 PM
sheikh amin was never a imam masjid in madina if he was then give the address of
that masjid which you will not give becoz it is lie.wahabi government dont allow any non wahabi to become a imam masjid and we all know wahabis hate sufis and sheikh amin claim he is a sufi so it is not possible that a sufi man can be made imam masjid in saudia.if he was 30 year imam masjid then then he must have only 12 or 13 year old when he was imam masjid there he is 65 year old he came back to pakistan in1986, 23 years ago he came to pakistan and 23+30=53 it mean 53 years ago he became imam masjid so 65-53=12.he was only 12 year old when he was made imam masjid?isnt it a joke from you peoples.stop misguiding muslims.you cant cover one lie by telling 100 lies.
September 10, 2009 at 8:40 AM
Syedi Amin was Imam of a mosque in Medina for 20 years before coming to Pakistan in around 1986, his date of birth is in 1941 (Rahmatullah-i-alaih).
September 10, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Burhan is regular defender of sheikh amin and he was aware of the fact that
Almost on every website it is mentioned that sheikh amin was imam masjid for 30 years.
He never before said sheikh was imam for 20 years when I caught this blunt lie (30years imam)
Then he realised oh we cant prove that he was imam masjid for 30 year so why not change in to 20 years.plz visit the links you will find that almost on every link it is stated sheikh amin imam masjid in madina for 30 years http://sufistation.w…/14/#comment-48
http://auliaallah.bl…dur-rehman.html http://wikibin.org/a…amin-madni.html
http://sheikhamin.blogspot.com/
now what is garanti that after some time you will say sheikh amin was imam masjid for 10 years?
Some time idrisi says sheikh amin migarted to pakistan in late 70s and some times in mid 80s
Why cant you stick to one statement? You keep changing your statements it only because
You people are trying to cover one lie for that you are total exposed and your lies are not coverable
Now lets say if sheikh amin was imam masjid in saudia?then you have to accept that sheikh amin was the follower of sheikh najdi wahabi? If he is wahabi then he could be a imam masjid in saudia
We all know the fact that no sunni or sufi can be imam masjid in saudia then how can sheikh amin be? There must be address of that masjid where he was imam?why don’t you give the address of it?
And what time he was imam?i am sure you will not give me details.
Now tell me if bhangra is sunaat Nabi ? tell me pls what you say is it sunaat bhangra dance?
Just tell me in YES or NO answer my questions in your next post pls.thanks
waiting for answers.
September 10, 2009 at 9:32 AM
one more lie but not going to help you or sheikh amin.when you cant prove that sheikh amin was imam masjid for 30 years so now you have make it 20 years
visit all the links where you peoples have written him imam masjid for 30 years
even on this webblog it says 30 years.visit the link http://auliaallah.bl…dur-rehman.html
http://sufistation.w…/14/#comment-48
http://wikibin.org/a…amin-madni.html
http://sheikhamin.blogspot.com/
some time sheikh amin was migrated to pakistan in late 70s and some time in mid 80s?stick to one statment why keep changing?
September 10, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Burhan is regular defender of sheikh amin and he was aware of the fact that
Almost on every website it is mentioned that sheikh amin was imam masjid for 30 years.
He never before said sheikh was imam for 20 years when I caught this blunt lie (30years imam)
Then he realised oh we cant prove that he was imam masjid for 30 year so why not change in to 20 years.plz visit the links you will find that almost on every link it is stated sheikh amin imam masjid in madina for 30 years http://sufistation.w…/14/#comment-48
http://auliaallah.bl…dur-rehman.html http://wikibin.org/a…amin-madni.html
http://sheikhamin.blogspot.com/
now what is garanti that after some time you will say sheikh amin was imam masjid for 10 years?
Some time idrisi says sheikh amin migarted to pakistan in late 70s and some times in mid 80s
Why cant you stick to one statement? You keep changing your statements it only because
You people are trying to cover one lie for that you are total exposed and your lies are not coverable
Now lets say if sheikh amin was imam masjid in saudia?then you have to accept that sheikh amin was the follower of sheikh najdi wahabi? If he is wahabi then he could be a imam masjid in saudia
We all know the fact that no sunni or sufi can be imam masjid in saudia then how can sheikh amin be? There must be address of that masjid where he was imam?why don’t you give the address of it?
And what time he was imam?i am sure you will not give me details.
Now tell me if bhangra is sunaat Nabi ? tell me pls what you say is it sunaat bhangra dance?
Just tell me in YES or NO answer my questions in your next post pls.
September 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM
one more lie to cover 1st lie lol
September 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM
sheikh amin could only be wahabi if he was made imam masjid in saudia?
September 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM
burhan is a regular defender of sheikh amin and he was aware of the fact that almost every website it is mentioned sheikh amin was a imam in madina for 30 years.but he never before said that sheikh was imam for 20 years?when i caught this blunt lie,then he realised that idrisi cant prove that he was imam for 30 years,so why not change it to 20 years plz visit the links you will find that almost on every link it is stated sheikh amin imam masjid in madina for 30 years http://sufistation.w…/14/#comment-48
http://auliaallah.bl…dur-rehman.html http://wikibin.org/a…amin-madni.html
http://sheikhamin.blogspot.com/
but i tell you soon they will make say sheikh was imam for 10 years lol
what ever u say but mind only wahabis are to be made imam in saudia.but u peoples
say sheikh amin is not a wahabi he is sufi and hanafi ,ok sir?give me the list of any sufi type person who was made imam masjid in najdi rule?why dont u give me the adrress of that masjid where sheikh amin was imam?trust me friend you cant help sheikh amin by telling lies.sheikh amin is a person who dont have any respect for prophets and who claimed his own prophethood and here u r calling him the biggest waliof all the time?anyways bring the proof that he was imam masjid?
September 11, 2009 at 4:10 PM
sheikh amin said Allah and Nabi are in his body(maz Allah) his face is like Allah and Nabi (maz Allah) Aqa ji used to make bhangra dance (maz Allah) Aqa ji use to read kafar namaz jinaz Allah would not allow him to do that but Aqa ji ignored Allah’s order and keept reading kafar jinaza (maz Allah) sheikh amin Aqa ji use to be angry with Allah (maz Allah) sheikh amin said the father of Aqa ji was Womanizer (maz Allah)
sheikh amin said mirza qadyani was a nabi in pakistan and he asked his follwers to look for new Nabi (maz Allah) he said my followers are forgiven if if they make big sins like zina (maz Allah)sheikh amin allowed his murids to fell in love woth the prositutes
his followers call him ALLAH (maz Allah) he said sheikh abdul qadir jilani never a real person it is just a man made story.ther are many kufar of this man and his followers are so empty minded they dont accept any logic or shariyat they just follow a kafar sheikh amin.they will keep saying sheikh is great he is the best they bark like dogs and danced on streets.if you ask them to bring any reference from quran hadeees if bhangra is sunaat they will not answer it.i hope Allah show them the right path but at the moment they are not following islam.
September 11, 2009 at 4:18 PM
i like ask all the idrisi that before giving any reply to my post plz kindly bring the reference from quran o hadees that bhangra is the sunaat of Aqa ji?and Aqa ji ignored the order of Allah and read namaz jinaz of kafars?mind kafar and munafiq are not the same your sheikh said Aqa ji kafron ke jinazay perhatay thay Allak on ko assa karnay se rokta bi tha phir bi wo kafron ke jinaz pertay thay (maz Allah)
pls pls pls bring the answer to the point.
September 16, 2009 at 9:44 AM
20 years, 1993 men mera ahad hua tha, us zamanay ka men nay suna hua hay Syedi ki apni zaban-i-mubarak say k wo 20 sal Medina ki us masjid k Imam rahay.
doosri baton ka jawab islami mehfil par dekho time nahi is waqt
September 16, 2009 at 10:39 AM
On second thought pata nahi wo Islami Mehfil hay bhi k nahi? Is liay wahan janay ka kehnay ki bajaey yehin jawab naqal kar deta hun:
Bhangra Punjab men hota hay Arab ki sunnat kaisay ho sakta hay, is liay agar aisi koi baat hui hay to saaf zahir hay k yaqeenan kisi or sayyaq-o-sabaq men, kisi aur paraiy men, kisi or mafhoom men hui ho gi, yeh baat men nay agar khud suni hoti to men kab ka jawab day chuka hota, lekin baghair sunay itna zaroor keh sakta hun k kyun-k mujhay Allah nay Syedi Amin ka batin dikhaya hay jo Allah ki Qasam noor hi noor hay, is liay jo bhi unhon na kaha ho ga wo us sayyaq-o-sabaq men, us paraiy men, us mafhoom men Haq hi ho ga kyun k aamal ka dar-o-madar niyat par hota hay
Doosri baat men nay us tarah nahi suni jis tarah tum bata rahay ho lekin Aqa Ji ki shan bayan kartay huay, un k mujasim rahmat honay ka bayan kartay huay ghaliban ek bar Abdullah bin Ubay ka waqia bayan kia tha k Aqa Ji nay us ka janaza parrha halan-k wo Munafiq tha Ghazwa-i-Uhud jaisay nazuk moqay se wapis palta tha
Yeh propaganda chalanay walay sayyaq-o-sabaq se hat kar bat naqal kartay hen –these propagandists quote statements out of context
September 16, 2009 at 10:52 AM
I took ahad in 1993 and it was in those days that I heard Syedi Amin telling that he had been Imam of a mosque in Medina for 20 years.
Bhangra is a folk thing of Punjab, Pakistan, how could it be the Sunnat of Arabia? It is obvious that if some statement was made to this effect, it has been made in some other context.
While explaining how Rasulullah is Mercy (Rahmat) embodified, I think I once heard Shaikh Sahib telling that Aqa Ji offered janaza prayers for Abdullah bin Ubay (despite his being the Munafiq who had turned his back on Muslims at the very difficult time of Ghazwa-i-Uhud).
The propaganda against Syedi Amin is based on out-of-context statements, so beware of this fitna which has its roots in jealousy, because people with Silsilas or branches of those Silsilas that are not as effective as Idrisia cannot stomach the amazing spread of Silsila Idrisia in Pakistan.
September 16, 2009 at 11:11 AM
I say that Shaikh Amin Sahib has such a strong faith in the finality of the Prophethood of Muhammad-u-Rasulullah Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam that he induces that belief in his followers, he has such a strong love for the Prophet that he induces that love in his followers, he has so much respect for the Messenger of Allah that he induces that respect in his followers. These statements are based on my personal experience.
The person writing by the name of “zahir khan” obviously speaks on the basis of hearsay and statements quoted out of context.
One of us is lying–I invoke God’s curse on the person lying — whoever is lying.
Syedi Amin’s Shaikh was a renowned Hanafi scholar and Idrisi Shaikh of Al-Ahsa, Saudi Arabia, Shaikh Muhammad al-Mulla. I happened to see him mentioned on their website–it was called darulhadith.blogspot or something similar.
September 16, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Syedna Muhammad-u-Rasulullah Sal-Allahu alaihay wasalam
September 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Whoever is the real seeker of truth should get out of the mist of hearsay and go to Multan with a clear heart and see for himself reflected in his heart the God’s blessings surrounding the environment and the radiant personality of the Shaikh for personal first-hand experience of Ultimate Tauheed. A clear heart is like a mirror, and light does not lose its originality even if it is reflected by a million mirrors (on the condition of the heart’s mirror being spotless), neither can the reflected light (Noor) be called the Original Light (God). This is the basis of Sufism–God’s Light being reflected by the Prophet’s heart, reflected in turn by the Shaikh’s heart, and reflected in turn by the Murid’s.
September 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM
God’s Original Light cannot be called reflected light (Noor) in any personified form (Jibrael, Prophet, Shaikh, Murid); of course the Original Light can be called the Reflected Light (Noor) in its most abstract form, when at the First Level, even before its being reflected by the Angel Gabrael, it is reflected by God Himself–at that level even the Reflected Light (Noor) is God.
September 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM
To avoid confusion on this most difficult and delicate of topics (which is better felt by the heart than understood by the mind), I think I should have put it this way: the reflected light (Noor) cannot be called God in any personified form, the Reflected Light (Noor) is called God only in its most abstract form (at the First Level where it is God Himself reflecting His Original Light).
September 16, 2009 at 4:18 PM
By personified, I mean “embodified” here, and by “abstract” I mean Unembodifiable, Transcendent
September 17, 2009 at 6:03 AM
I have been attached with Sheikh Ameen for a long period. I was told that this man is a true Ashiq of Muhmmad ( Peace be Upon Him). But some time ago, friend of mine told me that on You Tube there are some video clips about you Sheikh. When I listned on You Tube those videos and I compared those videos with CD of Sheikh Ameen which were given to me by his followers, I found that both bear the sound of Sheikh Ameen and clips on You Tube are real. After listening to those, I contacted Sheikh Ameen in Multan. He told me those clips are fake and someone is defaming. While the CDs have the same voice and wording. After knowing Sheikh Ameens lie, I decided this man is a fruad. Then I, Alhamdollilah broke my oath with him. Its true he has been lieing upon Prophet(Peace Be Upon Him) in his CDs. I am thankful to the man who exposed him on Internet. But it is really surprising that Religious Scholars have shut their eyes on this Fitna. It was duty of religious Scholars to condemn and expose this man. . Scholars consisant silance makes us feel that there is something fishy. If they do their religious duty sincerely, many naïve people can be saved from this Fitna.
September 17, 2009 at 11:51 AM
It is so sad that people like burhan using all the wrong excuses to protect a blasphemer
But even if they do all their best to protect sheikh amin they will not be ale to defend him
Because sheikh amin’s speeches are solid proof of his guilt now let me explain the exact
Wording of sheikh amin ‘s speech where he pasted a clear lie upon Aqa ji (pbuh)
Bhangra dalna sunaat rasool Allah ha is liye sab idrisi bhangara dala karin
Bhangra (dance) is the sunaat of Rasool Allah therefore all idrisi must dance.
Now mr,burhan trying to twist in (sayyaq o sabaq) and if I ask him a lie upon Aqa ji
Is lie not sayyaq o sabaq the question is if bhangra is sunaat or not? I like to know burhan
Sahib’s opinion if bhangra is sunnaat or not? I know burhan will not answer in yes or no
Because he is very well aware of the fact that sheikh amin did paste a lie by saying that bhangra
(dance) is sunat of Rasool Allah (maz Allah) we all aware of this hadees that whoever pasted lie upon prophet Mohammad (pbuh) he / she is the dog of hell.it is very simple to understand
that bhangra is not the sunaat and sheikh amin is lying.ok mr burhan lets make is easy for you
tell me what you say if bhangra is sunaat of rasool Allah or it is not sunaat of rasool Allah?plz
answer me in yes or no.dont hesitate to say yes or no plz do answer me.
Now I firmly believe that sheikh amin was not imam masjid not even 10.20.or30 years
Prove me wrong and give me the complete address of that masjid where he was imam there is no harm in providing me the address of that masjid ? will you believe a person who claim he was
Doctor in a hospital and when you ask him the name and address of the hospital and he don’t give you the address of it? You people have lied that he was imam masjid in madina for 30 or 20 years
Bring the proof of your claim? I know you are not going to bring the proof and you will not accept
That it was a lie that he was imam masjid in both the way your lie is exposed.
Now 2nd speech of sheikh amin where he once again pasted lie upon Aqa ji and Allah sheikh amin
Said Aqa jikafron ke jinazay pertay thay Allah on ko rokta tha hazrat umar (ra) on ko assa karny se roktay thay.Allah Aqa ji ko kehta tha ke kafron ke jinazay to na ada kia Karin phir bi wo kafron ke jinazay pertay thay.as we all know Abdullah bin Ubay was not a kafar he was munafiq and Aqa ji did perfom his funeral and at that time there was not any comand of Allah about this matter when Allah sent a ayat about the matter then Aqa ji (pbuh) never did so.but sheikh amin saying kafron ke jinazay if I ask to give the list of kafars can he give the list of those kafar? Can sheikh amin bring the reference from quran hadees that Aqa ji kept perfoming kafar jinza even Allah stoped Aqa ji from doing it (maz Allah) so it very clear statement of sheikh amin that kafron ke jinazay ada karte thay Allah on ko assa karnay se rokta bi tha sheikh amin is pasting this lie upon Aqa ji And Allah.
In this statement sheikh amin clearlly saying that Aqa ji did not follow Allah’s order and kept
Perfoming funeral of nonbeleivers (maz Allah)
Links of the statement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46LuvWXGKQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VswYQBtnBlg&feature=related
plz bring address of the masjid where he was imam
plz let me know what you say if bhangra is sunaat or not?
Plz bring the reference from quran hadees that Aqa ji did not follow Allah’s order and kept
Perfoming funeral of nonbeleivers (maz Allah)
Plz tell me who was the founder silsala idreesia? And if imam idrisi was the founder of it then why sheikh amin said it is 700 year old when imam idrisi was born only 250 years ago?
http://www.youtube.com/user/rafiqspd#play/uploads/8/gckx4Q0g5Dc in this clip sheikh amin saying imam ahmed idrisi is the founder of idreesia and it is 600/700 years old.mind imam ahmed idris was born in 1760 but sheikh amin saying it is 700 years old silsila.i hope to get answrs to the point.
September 18, 2009 at 12:38 AM
I was raised and born in Khamis Mushait KSA and was a follower of Wahabi school of thought till i meet Sidi Sarkar back in 1990. I can swear on Allah almighty that Sidi Ge is the greatest Saint of all times.
The only Fitna is See is yourself Dudes (Zahir/ Ex Idrisi) and I must say that you r up to a cheap propaganda campaign, your comments are childish and totally biased. To be more appropriate “Sumuun Buqmoun La Yerjioon”= “See Shall they see not, hear shall they Hear not”.
[Answer to Zahir]
1. Yes Aqa G (SAW) prayed for Mushriqeen and this complements Quran as well.
“Wa Ma Arsalnaka Ela Rahmatalil ALAMEEN” kindly please define Alameen ??????
2. on the second objection i am not sure what particular Taleem Sharif are u refering to. Do send me the audio clip at my email address salmankhan1975@gmail.com and InshahAllah i will defenatly answer that for u at this forum. Inshah Allah (Alhamdulillah)
[Comment to "So Called Ex Idrisi"]
kindly share the audios you think are contradictory at salmankhan1975@gmail.com along with your objections. i will definatly answer you InshahAllah (Alhamdulillah)
For the generic audience allow me to tell you that the above post by SO CALLED “Ex Idrisi and/ or Zahir Khan” are totally based on misleading statments and fake claims. Anyways if he/they think that his/ their claims are based on truth then I suggest one of the following options to them/him.
1. Let’s have a one to one dialog in person or over a conference call (in presence of the rest of audience ).
2. Since you claim to be a true believer and a devoted Muslim. So let’s help you perform your religious obligation lets meet in Multan allowing you to ask your questions/ objections directly with Sheikh Sab. I strongly believe if u r on Sira’ate Mustaqeem, Allah (SWT) would glorify you. However, if ur on Khutwatu Shaitan, misery would be your fait.
For for the rest of audiance, i would suggest not to drive any assumptions based on such commentsas credibility of such sources is questionable (“”Suni Sunai Baat per Yaqeen Nageen Karna Chahiy).
Further, there are lots of enemies of Ummah such as Qadiyanis etc that never miss any opportunity to promote hatred and division among Muslims. Unfortunately, some of our Muslim brothers are also contributing to their cause. I am not sure which party do these 02 gents (Sahir and Ex-Idrisi) represent.
Anyways, I would recommend the neutral audience to adapt a senseable approach i.e. visit Multan or a local Zikar Mahfil. You may contact me for any assistance in this context salmankhan1975@gmail.com
September 18, 2009 at 2:59 AM
This propaganda against the Qutbul Aqtab Syedi Amin is fitna. This is the new fiction of these propagandists –”ex-Idrisi” — if this person really was an Idrisi, he may be asked as to which year he took ahad and what was the name of the brother on duty at telephone at the Shaikh’s place in those days.
September 18, 2009 at 5:14 AM
Anyway, one thing can be said with 100 per cent certainty–this person who calls himself “ex-Idrisi” has never been attached with the Shaikh in the real sense of the word, i.e. he has never had his heart attached with the Shaikh’s, or he would have been shown by God that the Shaikh’s heart is all Noor. Had he been attached with the Shaikh with a mirror-like clear heart of a Momin he would have seen in that mirror the God’s blessings on this friend of God and Aqa Ji.
September 18, 2009 at 5:27 AM
This “ex-Idrisi”’s approach is purely that of a propagandist, he exposes himself by his very nickname–if he is a person who has dissociated himself from Idrisia, according to his own claim, why he is using the name “ex-Idrisi”? is this nostalgia? Or, more appropriately in this context, pure propaganda?
September 18, 2009 at 11:16 AM
This anti-Idrisia nonsense is nothing but propaganda.
September 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM
most respected mr,burhan sahib i made very humble request to you to answer few questions?i can see your lengthy posts but dont see any responce of you on my questions.you along with other idrisi have been claiming that sheikh amin was imam masjid in madina sharif for 30 or 20 years.i have asked you to give the address of that masjid where he was imam?i dont understand why you people ignore my question?
i know you cant give any reference from quran o hadees that bhangra is sunaat but
but u must accept that it is you who claims that sheikh amin was imam in a masjid so kindly bring the address of that masjid there nothing out of contest in it it is very simple
matter you bring the address of that masjid where he was imam or did you write sheikh amin was a imam masjid with some unknow sayyaq o sabaq?my good friend burhan i made my statement very clear im asking you to bring the address of that masjid plz plz plz bring it.
September 20, 2009 at 8:55 PM
I am 100% sure that this guy zahir is nothing but an imposter and you guys are upto a cheap propaganda. Alhamdulillah the Links that you provided on Youtube
are nothing but proof of Sarkar’s infinate love to AQA G and Allah.
The kind of statements you have been making, it reflects your arrogance, biasness. The truth is that there is no one on earth who would be able to help you comprehend what is being meant in those audios. Putting it simple It is just beyond your narrow mind to understand love and tariqat. By the way you remind me of the children of Israel who kept on behaving in the similar manner. But again this is Allah’s Hiqmat
Mashahallah. 
As requested earlier Can you please try to explain the following Quaranic verse:
“Wa Ma Arsalna ka ila Ramatalil Alameen” or lets just keep it simple for you as i believe Quranic Verse would be too complex for you to translate. so lets start with simple Arabic word “ALAMEEN” can you please try to translate/ comprehend what is Alameen? and what does it refers to?
for General audince Alameen includes angles, prophits, Saints, Men, Women, jinnat (Male and femal), satins, devils, children, birds, beasts, raptiles, souls, trees, soil, water, elements, matter, muslims, christians, jews, hindus, athiests, kafirs, munafiqs,nonmuslims, Planets, sun, moons, stars, skys, knowledge, languages, emotions, fire, sand, skills, emotions, bectaria, thoughts, past, future, present, time, love, organims, seas, rivers, canals, fruits, vegitables, seasons, weather, storms, drought, rain,marines, technologies, domains, and so on……… i.e. All creations of Allah (SWT)
so if quran says that AQA G (SAW) is mercy for the Alameen, who are you to say AQA G (SAW) did not prayed for Kafirs? All prophits had cursed their nations for wrong doings, Noah AL, Ibrahim AL, on an on till only AQA G (SAW) who (SAW) kept praying for everyone by the will of Allah (SWT) since Allah say in quran “Wa Ma arsalna ka ila Rehmatal lim Alameen” and the next statment you have been quoting that Allah asked AQA G (SAW) not to pray for Kufar is in the context that ( Allah has lots of Honor for his Mehboob AQA G ) and the context of Allah asking not to pray for Kufar is that Allah won’t forgive those who turned their face away from Aqa G”
Anyways this is again beyond your understanding
Khabi tum nay kisi say Ishq kiya ho to pat ho kay Ashiq ko Mahboob say kitna pyar hota hai our Ashiq ko Mahboob ki kitni Ghairat hoti hai.
Regarding Bhangra:
its pity to know your limited understanding of the subject please read through the following truth 
(again for the neutral audience)
hadith:-
The Imams of Hadith have written commentaries on this Hadith.
There were African companions of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW)
from Ethiopia and/or Abyssinia, the Bani Arfida (sons of Arfida)
residents of Madinah that used to come to visit the Holy Prophet Muhammad
(SAW) annually on the occasion of Id.
In Bukhari it is stated that they were playing (yalhabu), dancing and playing
in Masjid an-Nabawi, in front of the door of the Holy Prophet (SAW) house.
Bukhari has recorded this in the Chapter, Playing in the Masjid, since
the word playing appears in the text. So, readers of this Hadith concentrate
more on playing than other aspects.
Other Imams have also commented on this hadith. This being in the Chapter,
Playing in the Masjid, in Bukhari, a question arises as to whether anyone
has permission to play in the mosque? This is a place of prayer, reflection,
bowing and prostration, so the answer is a definite, No! Yet, Bukhari has
recorded this in the Sub Chapter, Spearplay in the Masjid.
The following is recorded in
Bukhari Book 4 Hadith 150 ,Book 1 Hadith 445 ,
Muslim Book 4 Hadith 1941
Tirmidhi and
Abu Daud
Several other imams Report the word
RAQs in this hadith
The Muslims of African descent used to come to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW)
on the Day of Id and it is stated they were playing with spears in the Mosque
and in front of the house door of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW). If one analyses
this hadith and reflect as to where the door of the house of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW)
opened, it opened leading to The Piece of Paradise on Earth (Riazul Jannah).
Imam Tirmidhi did not use the word playing (yalhaboon) but utilized yaznifoon.
Some have commentated on the activity saying that they were doing the war dance
since they had spears etc. Could they have not performed a war dance outside in the
open fields? They could never have played or performed a war dance at such a Place of
Sacredness , the Masjid of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW), in front of the door of his blessed
residence, standing on a piece of paradise.
This hadith is in the
Musnad of Imam Hamnbal,
Tabarani,
Nasai and as-Sunan al-Kubra etc.
Umana Hazrat Aisha (Razi Allah Anha), reported that the Abysinians were standing in front of the door of
the Holy Prophet (SAW) house and were ecstatically dancing or performing raqs on anticipation
of seeing the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Hazrath Anas bin Maalik t, reports in the Musnad
of Imam Hamnbal
Here yazfiloo or raqs is mentioned. The Holy Prophet (SAW) called Umana Hazrat Aisha (Razi Allah Anha), to witness
this ecstatic state of love, thus giving it his approval. Also, he asked the Sahaba as to
what they were saying in this ecstatic state? The Sahaba told the Holy Prophet (SAW) that they were saying:
Muhammad (SAW) is the most righteous slave of Allah Y
In Tabarani it is recorded that Hazrath Aisha y, said:
I had my hand on the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) s shoulder whilst they, the Africans, performed raqs
In another version of this hadith it is stated:
The Holy Prophet (SAW) invited Umana Hazrat Aisha (Razi Allah Anha) to watch the dance, took her into the crowd,
and lifted her over his back, so that she could watch them clearly as she eagerly leaned
forward, her cheek pressing against his.
In Sahih, ibn Hibban recording this incident the word yazfiloona meaning raks is also used.
Only a dance to please the beloved, extreme love of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW)
I don’t know what would be the response of a follower of ABUJAHIL… but fellow Muslims,
check this out:
“Hazrat Ali Razi Allah Tala said: I visited the Prophet (SAW) with Ja`far ibn
Abi Talib and Zayd ibn Haritha. He said to Zayd: “You are my freedman”
, whereupon Zayd began to hop on one leg around the prophet.
The Prophet then said to Ja`far: “You resemble me in my creation and
my manners”, whereupon Ja`far began to hop behind Zayd. The Prophet then
said to me: “You pertain to me and I pertain to you” whereupon I began to
hop behind Ja`far.
Allah-O-Akbar!
: )
Haqq is coming and batil must go!
Name of the Masjid where Sarkar was Imam is Masjid An-Noor
Allah-O-Akbar ! ! ! ! ! ! 
and your stupid claim regarding Sarkar’s zulf sharif
Allah-O-Akbar !!!!!!!!
Ibn Majah narrated that: “the Prophet once washed himself from Janaba (ritual ceremonial washing) then he noticed that there was a small place which was not moistened, so he moistened it with the wet hair that was hanging over his shoulders”.
It is not reported from the scholars of Islam that they defined a given length to the hair. So, there is no harm in lengthening or shortening it provided that one does not do this to imitate non-Muslims.
Allah-O-Akbar!
: )
Haqq is coming and batil must go!
So either submit or stop giving such negative comments. further just a humanly advise show some decency and try to be more reasonable when you are referring to a person who is elder than you parents.
September 21, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Respected usman sahib
I think you have not read my pervious posts,my question was sheikh amin sahib gave a statement in which he said dance (bhangra is the sunaat of rasool Allah) im sure what is the meaning of sunaat
A act which was done by Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) is called sunaat so kindly bring the reference
From quran or hadees where it is mention that prophet Mohammad ever danced (maz Allah)
My respected friend usman sahib kindly tell me if dance is sunaat of Aqa ji or it is not sunaat of Aqa ji? If you say like your sheikh sahib said that bhangra is the sunaat then I humbly ask you to bring the reference of it.i hope I don’t have to repeat my question and you will come with direct
Answer with quran o hadees reference.
2nd question was according to sheikh amin sahib Allah would not allow Aqa ji to perform the funeral of non-believers but Aqa ji kept performing funeral of kafars(maz Allah) as you and sheikh sahib might know that Abdullah bin Ubay was a munafiq not kafar abu jahil ,lahaab were kafars
my question was that you must prove that when and where aqa ji disoby Allah and kept reading namazay jinaza of kafar? Ask your sheikh to give the list of the name of kafars whom namaz jinaz
was done by Aqa ji even against the will of Allah (maz Allah)
my dear respected idrisi friends im not asking the name of the masjid where sheikh amin was imam for 30 or 20 years I have made many requsts to know the address of that masjid in madina sharif where sheikh amin was imam?i have asked some friends who live in madina to find the address of masjid an noor but they could not find that masjid so that’s why my friends asking me to get the address of it then it will be easy for them to find the masjid if sheikh was imam masjid there then
he must know the address too.in the past some of his murid wrote that he was imam masjid in
(SHEIKH HAFIZ AMIN BIN MOHAMMAD ABDUREHMAN remained a rigistered Imam of Mosque(masjid) HAZRAT BILAL situated near MASJID NABWI from late seventees to late eightees and also known by the present imam-e- kabas.
http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:wniuUhTCxMMJ:jmscult.com/forum/index.php%3Faction%3Drecent%3Bstart%3D80+SHEIKH+HAFIZ+AMIN+BIN+MOHAMMAD+ABDUREHMAN+remained+a+rigistered+Imam+of+Mosque(masjid)+HAZRAT+BILAL+situated+near+MASJID+NABWI+from+late+seventees+to+late+eightees+and+also+known+by+the+present+imam-e-+kabas.The+answer+to+the+fourth+question+is+also+the+same+one&cd=1&hl=da&ct=clnk&gl=
Shaikh Mohammad Ameen bin Abdurrahman is a prominent sufi Shaikh. He spent most of his time in Saudi Arabia in the past. He remianed registered imam of MASJID/MOSQUE HAZRAT BILAL situated near khana KAABA MASJID NABWI S.A.W.W.He is now based in Multan, a city in southern Punjab. His followed are believed to be in many thousands and are on rise. His followers gather at his house in Shah Rukn-e-Alam Colony in Multan, which is converted to a mosque….
Read article at Wikipedia
So my friends if you can kindly help me by giving the address of that masjid so I can make sure if
Sheikh amin sahib was imam or not.
I hope you will come with the address of that masjid in your next post.
October 7, 2009 at 3:01 AM
Dear Zahir,kindly contact the concerned organization in order to get detailed answers to your questions.your curiosity and zeal to know more and understand requires you to focus on getting information rather involve in an endless debate which will benefit neither and your questions will remain unanswered.good luck !
September 22, 2009 at 9:36 PM
FYI…..Plaxico Burress The NFL Footbal Player Begins Prison Sentence Today!
Not that I have anything against the guy but finally these athletes might start to get it….You CAN’T just do anything you want and get away with it. If I get caught with a gun, I would have to do time too.
Just my 2 cents…..
October 3, 2009 at 6:55 AM
Masjid Abdul Rahim Uwaiza, Hara Manshiyah, located on the road to Masjid-i-Nabvi’s Bab-u-Salaam. This is the mosque where Al-Shaikh Al-Hafiz Syedi Amin bin Abdul Rahman was Imam for 20 years before coming to Pakistan.
October 4, 2009 at 7:42 PM
As Saam o Alaikum Brother burhan,
Thanks for sharing your views about pair Shaikh Ameen Sahib, may i know if you are really idrisi bhai? Did you have the permission of shaikh sahib to reply on his behalf? I have just talk to shaikh sahib, he said to me “It is not true that I was imam in Masjid Abdul Rahim Uwaiza for 20 years, acctully I was imam in An-noor masjid for 30 years.” Apart from that many idrisi bhais have mentioned on different forums (over internet) that Shaikh sahib was imam in An-noor masjid for 30 years
If You are really idrissi bhai then You have no right to give any wrong information about shaikh Sahib, please cantact markaz as soon as possible and ask for ihtasham. But if you are not Idrissi then just go to multan shareef and see Shaikh Sahib, so all your misunderstandings can go off your mind.
Also you can ask from markaz about this matter by sending mail at 381amultan@gmail.com, or calling at no: +92-61-6784000
thanks